The ZCI I was looking at had 22 TPA and the shs had 16tpa, both high torques.

Well they are both in the cart.  And from what ive been finding on the old interweb is that the shs (16tpa) have less torque but are faster and that the ZCI (22 tpa) have more torque and slower.  So, in conclusion, Im aware that tpa stands for turns per armature (maybe) and that i have no clue what that means in terms of my findings.

Ok well I was on brill. Shs are 31 and zci are 30 what's a better choice?

Well with what I'm hearing the krytac sound like one of those mythical buy it and play forever with guns.  I know some people love workin on guns, me ehhhhhhhh I get bored because lack of skill. So something like that sounds right up my alley.

Kwa isn't really doing anything special anyway in terms of externals either. Even if Krytac is superior, I love G&P's designs on some of their m4. Pretty sexy rifles in my opinion. But, all the features of a gun like that of the Krytac m4, really make it a hard to pass up option.

On another note, I'd like to ask you guys what you would like to see come next in guns or what integrations that could be made. My opinion, i dont even get a company doesn't make hop up upgrades like Flat Hop, or r hop, out of the box. The only thing i can think of would be that they already have the buckings, nubs, and other stuff made for stock hop ups and just dont want to spend money in changing that. Although, i think if a company did that, it would put the spotlight on them and boost sales. The closest i can think of is the krytac's hop up. They have a special "w" hop up correct? If so, how does that compare to a flat hop or r hop?

I always thought KWAa were "11.1 ready" because they had gold trigger contacts. As well as having half ass tuned guns and good parts for their time.

Krytac hands down. They have the most, best parts in their platforms, even in their Alpha line, they shoot phenomenally.

While G&Ps are very solid performers, the only real things they have change up is their externals. Though one thing G&P has been doing right for some time, is coming standard with Deans connectors.

   You mentioned Krytac's Alpha line. What exactlt is the difference between the Alpha and Trident series. They are very close in price. And they have a $500 line with cerekote finishes, are those simply trident m4's with and external finish or is there some sort of performance upgrade?