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Clothing & Load Bearing Gear / Re: COLLECTORS GUIDE: Eagle Industries, Military Tags [2004-2014]
« on: December 05, 2015, 12:04:33 AM »
Sorry for the necro, lots of health problems this year.
As far as kit lists go, I've seen them labeled lots of ways online and in person. I've only seen the DGLCS online and I am not DG or CIF or anything that would see it close to the source; so it's possible to debate the authenticity of the online lists, especially since they'd be so easy to fake. DGLCS is the most common acrynom used to refrence these kits in the collector community though from my experience.
One of the various lists online that's kinda interesting: http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii98/Marc-Anthony_2007/DSC03325-1.jpg~original
An update on Eagle's production: I've been digging through a few kits I've gotten in this year, almost all multicam/OCP army stuff. It appears much of what Eagle was producing has been taken over by Tyr and First Spear (founded by ex-eagle employees); but what really surprised me was the stuff Eagle is making. They've switched away from the standard 1" PALS format and started using 3/4" webbing in place of it; I'm guessing to reduce weight and production costs. All the items I have seen that were Eagle were almost exact copies of items designed and commercially sold by Tyr, ATS, and First-Spear; I don't know what the legal situation is there but I thought it was interesting. I still haven't seen anything in the way of civilian Eagle products this year.
[EDIT:]
I forgot a couple other things I've seen this year.
Saw a counterfeit tag sewn onto an actual eagle product. I don't have permission to share the photo, but I'll point out the key flaws: incorrect material, no eagle logo/name/acronym, poor sewing, and thread didn't match the thread used on the item. Really It should immediately draw red-flags from anyone with a minimal knowledge of eagle tags; and the item was 100% legit so I'm not sure why they bothered.
Some of the AOR1/AOR2 issued stuff from 2011 till 2014 is being issued with blue tags baring a Health and Human Services contract number. Yes HHS does issue AOR1/AOR2 camo, however I don't know any HSS member who has need of M4, DMR, MP7, etc. mag pouches so I'm betting this stuff is going to seals unless HHS is preparing for something we don't know about haha. I've also seen other coyote and multicam/ocp gear with HHS contract numbers, if anyone understands this mystery I'd love to hear about it.
[EDIT 12/28/15 ]
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day who has collected NSW stuff for awhile now, so I asked him about load carrying system names in the collectors community. He said generally DG-MLCS is used to describe the early DIG2/DG3A kit by Eagle & LBT which was a straight copy of the older khaki MLCS kit but in the new pattern; and DGLCS describes the later redesigned Eagle A1/A2 kit after the official adoption of the AOR pattern. He also noted DGLCS may also be used to refer to the newer NSW issue multicam stuff but largely because that stuff hasn't been well established in the collector's community yet and may change once more information becomes available.
As far as kit lists go, I've seen them labeled lots of ways online and in person. I've only seen the DGLCS online and I am not DG or CIF or anything that would see it close to the source; so it's possible to debate the authenticity of the online lists, especially since they'd be so easy to fake. DGLCS is the most common acrynom used to refrence these kits in the collector community though from my experience.
One of the various lists online that's kinda interesting: http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii98/Marc-Anthony_2007/DSC03325-1.jpg~original
An update on Eagle's production: I've been digging through a few kits I've gotten in this year, almost all multicam/OCP army stuff. It appears much of what Eagle was producing has been taken over by Tyr and First Spear (founded by ex-eagle employees); but what really surprised me was the stuff Eagle is making. They've switched away from the standard 1" PALS format and started using 3/4" webbing in place of it; I'm guessing to reduce weight and production costs. All the items I have seen that were Eagle were almost exact copies of items designed and commercially sold by Tyr, ATS, and First-Spear; I don't know what the legal situation is there but I thought it was interesting. I still haven't seen anything in the way of civilian Eagle products this year.
[EDIT:]
I forgot a couple other things I've seen this year.
Saw a counterfeit tag sewn onto an actual eagle product. I don't have permission to share the photo, but I'll point out the key flaws: incorrect material, no eagle logo/name/acronym, poor sewing, and thread didn't match the thread used on the item. Really It should immediately draw red-flags from anyone with a minimal knowledge of eagle tags; and the item was 100% legit so I'm not sure why they bothered.
Some of the AOR1/AOR2 issued stuff from 2011 till 2014 is being issued with blue tags baring a Health and Human Services contract number. Yes HHS does issue AOR1/AOR2 camo, however I don't know any HSS member who has need of M4, DMR, MP7, etc. mag pouches so I'm betting this stuff is going to seals unless HHS is preparing for something we don't know about haha. I've also seen other coyote and multicam/ocp gear with HHS contract numbers, if anyone understands this mystery I'd love to hear about it.
[EDIT 12/28/15 ]
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day who has collected NSW stuff for awhile now, so I asked him about load carrying system names in the collectors community. He said generally DG-MLCS is used to describe the early DIG2/DG3A kit by Eagle & LBT which was a straight copy of the older khaki MLCS kit but in the new pattern; and DGLCS describes the later redesigned Eagle A1/A2 kit after the official adoption of the AOR pattern. He also noted DGLCS may also be used to refer to the newer NSW issue multicam stuff but largely because that stuff hasn't been well established in the collector's community yet and may change once more information becomes available.
